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Re: ZEITGEIST and The Huffington Post

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You should go on the stage ao, you'd be eating seats ...

... never to so much bear a grudge ...

http://www.chrismartenson.com/forum/unsustainability-civilisation/36503

... sorry for railroading your thread JK21, carry on ...

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Paul,

How about for once dropping the passive-aggressive and circuitous speech and just speak plainly and directly.  I, for one, would be able to understand what the hell you're saying. 

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THANKS for the info !!!

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ao wrote:

How about for once dropping the passive-aggressive and circuitous speech and just speak plainly and directly.  I, for one, would be able to understand what the hell you're saying. 

... because ao, the use of expletives within the forum is frowned upon heavily ...

 

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ao wrote:

How about for once dropping the passive-aggressive and circuitous speech and just speak plainly and directly.  I, for one, would be able to understand what the hell you're saying. 

... because ao, the use of expletives within the forum is frowned upon heavily ...

 

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So let me get this straight.  Eating seats and expletives over someone at variance with certain aspects of this particular point of view (which I have read fully about and seen all the videos of, BTW) are part of the Zeitgeist solution for world peace and prosperity? 

Let me ask you this.  Have just read about Zeitgeist or have you actually been personally exposed to the New York cultural element that this point of view springs from?

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Let's get back on track, another great interview you can watch to give you an idea on where we will be going is an interview with Ray Kurtzweil on Glenn Beck, back when he was at cnn.  It's 4 parts, very interesting material. 

I think people need to really consider the concepts and understandings of a Resource Based Economy based on the inevitable move toward automation of jobs.  Kurtzweil's Law of accelerating return, he explains when applied to technology will be able to automate majority of jobs as the Zeitgeist movement acknowledges too.  

The point of technology is to free humanity.

Google, Automation and Unemployment tons of material and videos come up, interesting stuff enjoy.

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JK,

I found the interview with Ray Kurzweil on Glenn Beck for you: -

Ray Kurzweil ~ Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Kurzweil

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Wikipedia wrote:

Raymond Kurzweil (born February 12, 1948) is an American inventor and futurist. He is involved in fields as diverse as optical character recognition (OCR), text-to-speech synthesis, speech recognition technology, and electronic keyboard instruments. He is the author of several books on health, artificial intelligence (AI), transhumanism, the technological singularity, and futurism.

Transcript

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/30/gb.01.html

I also found him free-flowing his genius to an apprieciative audience on TED for you: -

Ray Kurzweil: How Technologies Accelerating Power Will Transform Us

... and going further than Glen Beck could ever imagine in his own lifetime: -

Ray Kurzweil - Singularity Summit At Stanford

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6140406219828000794&ei=YpSoS9eeEZmW-Ab_qeStAw&q=Ray+Kurzweil&hl=en&view=3#

... and a related bonus film that is so stunning, a friend of mine who is devising a UK Open I.D computer platform used it in an hour lecture he performed to an audience of 500 forward thinking and fully engaged people at the top of their field, just a few months ago : -

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ao,

I'm aware of all the arguments that you make, and they're nothing new to me because I always expose myself to contradictory arguments. I think that serves the interests of making an informed opinion.

I do not believe at this time that the Zeitgeist Movement have all of the answer's any more than Ray Kurtzweil; or indeed Derick Jensen.

In the political and religious state of things that are building in the United States at this time, aggressive tactics, black and white or left verses right thinking is blanking out the effectiveness of a colourful middle ground.

Interpretation of idea's cannot be done inside of the bubble that is the United States to me. Therefore, a corruption in the intention of a good idea can make it appear a bad one.

To me, the CM forum needs a group of intuitive and open minds more than ever. It needs people that can embrace every and all of the possibilities the future has in store for us.

As Dr Martenson once stated, "I may even challenge many of your long held personal belief's". I consider him a visionary, and wish to help fashion a future with the breadth of knowledge we already have and also hope to achieve.

What I'm asking you to do is to share that conviction with me ...

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Well put Vanity, and thanks for uploading the interview.  Cool

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JK,

you're very welcome.

This short film ...

... nails home precisely what is wrong with the system we have in place at this time. There is no doubt that we need it to change, and quickly, but what exactly must we do to change the path we're on?

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WOW!! amazing video.  Yup, it's the mechanism of monetary economics that leads to cyclical consumption that is tied in with planned Obsolescence to give a turn over rate, just so the consumer can throw away and waste resources that will come back and bite the consumer in the ass when depletion is in the danger zone.  All Capitalists, Socialists and Communists are the same, wasteful.  

The market place was good 50 yrs ago, but we need sustainability and abundance of items that matter and scrap the junk, basically all materialism that is irrelevant in society, it's axiomatic to the informed.

 

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