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Soros Spills the Beans: China As Leader of Financial "New World Order" (his words, not mine)
At the same time perhaps there should be some sort of global governance structure? Perhaps mankind isn't mature enough to be left to their own devices? Look at our track record so far. Give people freedom and they choose to plunder the earth leaving next to nothing for the generations to come.
Ruhh
I have to agree with Strabes. The very thing that has done the most to facilitate the plundering you speak of is in fact, government and the international organizations created by governments. The environmental devastation we have inflicted on ourselves is not the product of freedom, it is the product of corporatism - which is ultimately the same thing as fascism (Mussolini himself described fascism as "the merger of state and corporate power"). Why would we want more of this? Globalization, which hides behind the banner of "free trade" has nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with exploitation. The World Bank, the IMF, and the WTO serve to extract resources and to create debt. The IMF, for example, famously extracted more money from Africa during the 1990's than it loaned! The WTO and trade agreements like NAFTA that force third world farmers to compete with American subsidized agribusiness giants are a big reason workers work for big MNCs for a dollar a day, or they're pouring across our borders. Why would we want to give the people who created this mess even more power?
And then of course there's our trillion dollar "defense" budget. Exxon Mobil cannot invade Iraq or Afghanistan, or pressure the Saudis to keep prices down, but the United States military can, funded by inflation and generational theft, based on a monetary system that only exists by "Government Fiat." That's not freedom.
So whose "devices" would mankind be left with?! Those who govern us would not be part of "mankind?" World government will only give even more power to the very people who have done the most to create the growth addicted and ultimately unsustainable system we now live under. What makes you think they will suddenly become wiser and more benevolent?
What freedom are you talking about? Because it sure looks to me, what's left of it is disappearing as fast as any other precious resource on earth. Here's a guy who gets it, in my opinion. http://ar.to/2009/04/delusional-freedom
Cheers
Greg
... "The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England ... [and] ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."...
..."As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy's summons to citizenship. And then, as a student, I heard that call clarified by a professor I had named Carroll Quigley. “President Clinton, in his acceptance speech for the Democratic Party's nomination for president, 16 July 1992" - Dr. Carroll Quigley
Just ask Hillary...
"Thank you very much, Richard, and I am delighted to be here in these new headquarters.
I have been often to, I guess, the mother ship in New York City, but its good to have an outpost of the Council right here down the street from the State Department.
We get a lot of advice from the Council, so this will mean I wont have as far to go to be told what we should be doing and how we should think about the future."
This is from Bill Clinton's mentor, Carroll Quigley:
"The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England ... [and] ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established." Dr. Carroll Quigley
"I know of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years in the early 1960s to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies ... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
Dr. Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope
"As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy's summons to citizenship. And then, as a student, I heard that call clarified by a professor I had named Carroll Quigley. “President Clinton, in his acceptance speech for the Democratic Party's nomination for president, 16 July 1992"
RHKP
Here's another quote from Quigley which seems apropos on election day
Does anyone doubt that's exactly what's happening?
RedHeadKingPin - I'm glad you mentioned "Tragedy and hope a history of the world in our time." It is without a doubt the most interesting history book I've ever read. Parts are tedious but overall it's a good read and you can still buy it relatively cheap. The original publication can be found starting at around $50 and going up from there for collector quality. New versions are also available but I am not sure if they are complete as originally published, I've heard that there are some abbreviated versions so you should probably check before buying.
Quigley will end any illusion that you may have regarding democracy - it doesn't exist and neither does unfettered capitalism in any large scope. When Bush talked about bringing democracy to Iraq that has been an ongoing ploy to blur the line between democracy and a republic. Democracy works harmoniously with economic approaches like communism, naziism, fascism and feudalism. Democracy is a form of collectivism and it will always lead to tyranny.
I think it is very important that we not use the word democracy in describing our republic. A republic like ours insures inalienable rights that may neither be granted nor denied by government and it forms the constitutional rule of law rather than democratic rule of the majority. As Jefferson said (I think it was Jefferson) the constitution was created to restrict the government and to protect the people from the tyranny of the majority.
Quigley does not apologize for his smug disdain of commoners and praise of the elites even though he contends they make a lot of mistakes. Other reading is needed to get a better handle on the psychopaths in charge and their demented plans. Hitler was a softy compared the financial oligarchs running the world.
The most amazing thing to me, is how these people have been able to butcher and plunder civilization for as long as they have without becoming attacked and subdued. Their organizations are public knowledge and we have written UN initiatives describing their global governance plan. This not a secret agenda but yet many dismiss it as impossible.
I have read several times that the elites claim that we have convicted ourselves as being unable to govern ourselves since we can't even figure out that we are being enslaved. It would be an absolute mess if unwashed and mindless chattel were able to rule themselves.
I don't buy that for a second, and if there is to be a 2012 type awakening, it will have at it's core the understanding of the world as it is. The other awakening that is preferred by the elites, is that we knowingly accept their rule - at the end of a gun and under the boots of their private armies.
Larry
END the FED before it ENDS US
So true. In fact they have created a system that causes people to attack people who attack them! I was just on a facebook discussion where I was attacked and told to leave the country for pointing out how the elite has destroyed the republic. One idiot yelled at me for being from harvard, to which I responded "I share your antipathy toward harvard, so why do you blindly cheerlead its alumni in DC/Wall St who have taken over and are destroying your country?" She couldn't compute that response. Couldn't fit me into a "left" or "right" bucket so she would know how to respond.
I'm losing patience and hope in americans...not sure why I keep trying. The mind-control is incredible...Orwell was so right...these folks will be led right into the endgame that has been planned. I hope you smarter types here on CM.com are able to avoid it.
Harvard!!!! Scumbag!!!
Go Tigers!!!!!!!!! (Princeton)
I've LOST hope in Americans. I'm amazed every day by the idiots that know who's on dancing with the stars but has no idea what's happening with the economy (or anything else for that matter).
I despise all elite institutions equally LogansRun. 
I'm glad you took it as a ribbing.
I've come to agree the hard way. In retrospect, the education that I received was more a "brainwash" than education. Now that I'm aware of how they go about the "reprogramming" of their pupils, it disgusts me to think on it.
Hi guys. I'm glad this interview has inspired such an enlightened debate. With regard to whether references to the NWO refer to a general trend, or an organized conspiracy, I submit the following. Obviously, plans of any kind are tenuous and fluid, but intentions are important to understand, in order that we may attempt to predict future events, and maintain a properly skeptical posture.
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This is from Bill Clinton's mentor, Carroll Quigley:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=122_12138...
"Author of Tragedy and Hope (tragedy is all the people who must suffer and die for the NWO, and the hope is the NEW WORLD ORDER )
Professor Quigley was a Globalist, he supported the idea NEW WORLD ORDER and wrote about it, he, unlike the elites, thought the people should know about it.
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world syste More..m of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland; a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups." Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University
"The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England ... [and] ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established." Dr. Carroll Quigley
"I know of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years in the early 1960s to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies ... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
Dr. Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope
"As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy's summons to citizenship. And then, as a student, I heard that call clarified by a professor I had named Carroll Quigley. “President Clinton, in his acceptance speech for the Democratic Party's nomination for president, 16 July 1992"
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Another informative interview, this time with senator Norman Dodds, in which he discusses his role with the Reece Special Committee on Tax Exempt Foundations. The findings of the committee included the intention of powerful foundations to form a world government. Again: specifics are bound to change with time, but the goals remain the same, and ever more discernable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8cC21jB9...
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Be safe!
-me