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And the Swine Flu won't go away
I saw this yesterday. I can't support the thoughts that H1N1 is a Pandemic. the CDC say they are not recording all cases because there is too many (or is it because there is not enough).
This article is pure propogander, look how connected the quoted analyst is in my quick wiki search at the bottom.
H1N1 Cases Vastly Underreported, CDC Says
November 2, 2009H1N1 Cases Vastly Underreported, CDC Says
October 29, 2009
The Wall Street Journal
By JARED A. FAVOLEWASHINGTON -- The number of confirmed cases of H1N1 flu from April to July represents just 2% of the actual people who were infected with the virus, according to a report by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
The report, posted to the agency's Web site, says the number of people infected with H1N1 flu from April to July likely was between 1.8 million and 5.7 million, much higher than the 43,677 confirmed cases. The paper also said the virus hospitalized 9,000 to 21,000 people during the same period.
The instant serology test is pretty unreliable. One of my twin 10y old daughters tested positive for H1N1 and her twin sister with flu symptoms tested negative the next day. I'm pretty sure they had the same illness. Also I personally think that 3 million cases is a pretty good estimate. IMHO
this is a short video and worth a watch.
http://www.gapminder.org/videos/swine-fl...
Tuberculosis from Wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), nearly 2 billion people—one third of the world's population—have been exposed to the tuberculosis pathogen.[2] However, not all infections with M. tuberculosis cause TB disease and many infections are asymptomatic. Annually, 8 million people become ill with tuberculosis, and 2 million people die from the disease worldwide.[69] In 2004, around 14.6 million people had active TB disease with 9 million new cases. The annual incidence rate varies from 356 per 100,000 in Africa to 41 per 100,000 in the Americas.[2] Tuberculosis is the world's greatest infectious killer of women of reproductive age and the leading cause of death among people with HIV/AIDS.
Jon
That same video series, and an excellent slide presentation that includes information on the connection between vaccines and sterility can be found at Mercury, Autism, and the Global Vaccine Agenda.
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I do not want to derail the vaccine conversation but I wanted to give a little more info on the Ukraine situation, which is acting like a pretty impressive wave-over 100,000 cases in Western Ukraine regions, 1000+ in Eastern Ukraine regions.
http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com/flu/gmap...
Again, apologies for staying out of the vaccine discussion but I think this is relevant to the overall pandemic progression. (sorry Cloudfire for the interruption)
I do not want to derail the vaccine conversation but I wanted to give a little more info on the Ukraine situation, which is acting like a pretty impressive wave-over 100,000 cases in Western Ukraine regions, 1000+ in Eastern Ukraine regions.
http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com/flu/gmap...
Again, apologies for staying out of the vaccine discussion but I think this is relevant to the overall pandemic progression. (sorry Cloudfire for the interruption)
No problem, Vegn . . . The pandemic is the point of the thread, as I recall. I can't get the page that you linked to load . . . It keeps locking up my browser. Are we getting any indication that these are confirmed cases? Or are they probable cases?
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I still can't get in, Vegan . .
Is there any chance that you can post a screenshot of the map and data?
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This may shed a bit of light on things in the Ukraine.
CloudfireOnFire.com
No matter how you slice it, something is up . . . . I'm following this thing closely, and I'm posting developments on my blog, as they occur. I'll try to post major developments here, too. If you're acutely interested, you may want to follow on my blog, CloudfireOnFire.com. Just click on Alternative Healthcare -- Swine Flu, in the right-hand sidebar.
If this thing takes off . . . That is, if it jumps the Atlantic, and still looks highly virulent and lethal, I'll be pulling family members home and battening down the hatches . . . I'm putting them on short leashes, as of now. (Which is to say, always within telephone communication, and no unecessary public contact.)
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Ukraine media is only reporting 14 confirmed cases, with 1 death attributable to swine flu.
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I saw this yesterday. I can't support the thoughts that H1N1 is a Pandemic. the CDC say they are not recording all cases because there is too many (or is it because there is not enough).
This article is pure propogander, look how connected the quoted analyst is in my quick wiki search at the bottom.
H1N1 Cases Vastly Underreported, CDC Says
November 2, 2009H1N1 Cases Vastly Underreported, CDC Says
October 29, 2009
The Wall Street Journal
By JARED A. FAVOLEWASHINGTON -- The number of confirmed cases of H1N1 flu from April to July represents just 2% of the actual people who were infected with the virus, according to a report by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
The report, posted to the agency's Web site, says the number of people infected with H1N1 flu from April to July likely was between 1.8 million and 5.7 million, much higher than the 43,677 confirmed cases. The paper also said the virus hospitalized 9,000 to 21,000 people during the same period.
The study shows the prevalence of the virus is more widespread than originally reported. The CDC and World Health Organization in July stopped tracking individual cases because they acknowledged doing so was difficult.
In recent weeks, government health officials have instead been describing the scope of the virus by saying it is widespread in 46 states. The authors of the study say the report may help health officials plan for a subsequent wave of the epidemic in the fall and winter months.
Steve Brozak, an analyst and president of WBB Securities LLC, said the report shows there are just "too many variables" for the government to track individual cases, and suggests the government can't be held accountable if the disease becomes more or less widespread than health officials estimate.
"Now there's just no way you can say statistically we should have done this or done that," Mr. Brozak said.
The report says underreporting may occurs for a handful of reasons, including because not everyone gets tested and the quality of tests varies.
The authors of the study created a model to estimate cases based off the number of confirmed reports and other studies, such as the rate at which people with the season flu seek help.
The study estimates that for every confirmed case, there was likely a median of 79 actual people infected with the virus. Using the same model, the authors estimate about 800 people died from the virus during the same time frame.
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FROM WIKI
Steve Brozak is the President and Co-founder of WBB Securities, LLC, and the Chairman and CEO of StormBio, Inc. Mr. Brozak is a retired Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps, having served in Europe, the Middle East, Asia, and the Caribbean. He was also a Democratic Party Congressional Candidate in the 2004 election cycle.
Campaigning for Congress during the 2004 election, Mr. Brozak kicked off his campaign with a front-page feature story, A Marine Jumps Party Lines to Join Democrats in Trenches, in The Wall Street Journal, where he gave early warning of the nearly insurmountable challenges faced by the shortage of U.S. troops in Iraq and the need for a modified strategy to subdue insurgency and create a secure nation in Iraq.[
Mr. Brozak is a retired Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps, having served in Europe, the Middle East, Asia, and the Caribbean. He has been attached to units within the United Nations, specifically as a Foreign Area Officer at the US Mission to the United Nations, and as a Public Information Officer in the United Nations Mission in Haiti (UNMIH). LtCol Brozak has also been attached to units within NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) and has worked with the Inter-American Defense Board.[
LtCol Brozak resumed active duty service in the Marine Corps immediately after the September 11, 2001 attacks as Officer in Charge of Mobilization Training Unit NY- 17 in New York City. He later served as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, leading a team to the Middle East to evaluate National Guard and Reserve mobilization