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The Wrong Diagnosis

I post my thoughts and insights about breaking news items and other findings every day of the week, and often on weekends too, in a forum area for enrolled members.  Below is my first post of the day, which I thought would provide a good example of what's happening over on that part of the site.


Mr Practical, who posts his keen insights at minyanville.com, has this nice summary and diagnosis of the current situation (which I happen to share 100%):

If you add up all the government bailouts, explicit and implicit, along with actual government purchases of assets (debt from banks) it comes out to a surreal $30 trillion. Markets are cheering that things have “stabilized” and “things are getting less bad”. I ask you seriously when the government throws $30 trillion at the “crisis” (one which bankers are now claiming is over), can you call that stable? That is like declaring a patient being kept alive on a heart-lung machine healthy.

Of course we have stabilized. The government has bankrupted our future to do it. The government(s) control the LIBOR market, the swaps market, the bond markets with all the “money” they are printing. They are feeding “money” to banks under the table at an alarming rate.

Those declaring the economy is now recovering do not understand (still) the problem: we are stuck with too much debt. The government’s solutions are to create more debt, as their next to be announced PPIP does. But an economy grows from production, not lending at the wrong price. This is a long term problem; the government has only addressed the short run symptoms.

The key issues are best examined at the most macro level these days.  If they do not make sense in total, then they do not make sense individually.

Does it make sense that a crisis rooted in debt can be solved with more debt?  If not, then you can safely ignore the details of the TASF, TALF, PPIP, et al., unless you are interested in tracking the theft and looting of public monies by insiders.  Then there is good sport to be had in the details.

Mr Practical continues:

Let me give you an example. Sixty to 70% of our economic growth depends on consumption. In order to “reflate” an economy (still the wrong way to do it but I will give the bulls the fact that you can drive up nominal asset prices by devaluing a currency), you need people to borrow money and spend it.

Right there, Mr Practical has named the very root of the predicament we face:  Growth comes from new spending, and new spending comes from new credit, and new credit represents more debt.  That, for better or worse, is our system.  Said another way, every dollar is loaned into existence. All money is debt.

As pointed out in the Crash Course, this means there is a problem baked right into the very system itself, because it is not possible for debt to increase exponentially forever.  Sooner or later it runs out of fuel (new borrowers, productive economy, or both) and then the system begins to unravel.  That's where we are today.

Jeff Nielson summarized this very nicely in an article in SeekingAlpha that was posted this morning.  He picks up on on one of the most-important yet least-appreciated facets of our current delusion (the fact that our GDP is padded with non-cash transactions - thank you, Jeff!) and builds towards the logical conclusion that we simply have too much debt.

As pointed out by Chris Martenson, in his own fantastic presentation, “The Crash Course”, roughly $2 TRILLION per year of supposed U.S. GDP is statistical “padding”. It is “deemed GDP”, where there are no dollars changing hands and no visible wealth being generated.

Strip away that padding along with the dramatic reduction in GDP caused by the Greater Depression, and we are left with a measly, $11 trillion/year in GDP. Please note that GDP is not the profits of an economy, merely an indication of economic activity.

Given that most U.S. debt is held by individuals and cooperations, and with long-term interest rates rapidly rising, just to service this insane mountain of debt will require something in excess of $3 TRILLION/year. This is more than 25% of annual GDP!

Obviously when more than ¼ of all economic activity is dedicated to simply paying interest on debt, then it is equally obvious that borrowing additional vast sums of money will simply make this ratio much worse. If this were not true, then no one would ever need to declare bankruptcy, they could just keep borrowing more and more and more – until eventually they “solved” their problem.

Is there anyone who still believes the Wall Street Liars, their servants in government, or the media-parrots, when they repeatedly assure one and all that increasing this debt far faster than at any time in history will “solve” the U.S.'s current economic nightmare?

The arithmetic cannot be contradicted. The “plan” of the Obama regime (and the Bush regime before that) is simply a guarantee of bankruptcy for the U.S. - with most likely a destructive episode of hyperinflation before the final, debt-implosion.

Where the US government and its Wall Street partners have decided that we suffer from a condition of too little spending, the alternative diagnosis says that we suffer from too much debt.  Given our debt-based monetary system, these are exactly diametrically opposed conclusions, and each implies solutions that are exactly in opposition to the other.

So if it turns out that we suffer from too much debt, and the wrong solution of MORE DEBT is applied, then we are making the situation worse, not better.  It would be the same as a drunk trying to drink himself sober.  

I hold the view that we are doing exactly that.  The crisis will only continue to get worse and surprise DC/Wall Street to the downside until we finally get a grip on what the actual problem is.  I am not holding my breath for that moment, as it could be a long time coming.

The hangover is going to be severe.

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same as a drunk trying to drink himself sober

Seems so odvious - and never mentioned by the corrupt media.

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Great post Chris. Is there a chance that the Obama Regime is aware of the fact that they are driving the country towards bankruptcy? And if so, is there a possibility that they want the country to go bankrupt? And why would they do that (any positive effects of bankruptcy) ? Questions over questions...

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 30 trillion wow! Now there is a number we'll never hear on CNBC , ( the real comedy network).

   Great article Chris, just proves again that " figures can't lie but liars sure can figure".

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This is what Peter Schiff has been telling the media as many laugh at him. Hope he runs for the Senate.

One has to wonder if someone is trying to ruin this economy on purpose. Once failed it will be much easier for someones new agenda to be put in place.

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 idoctor said:  "One has to wonder if someone is trying to ruin this economy on purpose. Once failed it will be much easier for someones new agenda to be put in place."

Yep.  You got it.   Only thing is, there agenda has been in place for a long time.

 

mailpankau said:  "Is there a chance that the Obama Regime is aware of the fact that they are driving the country towards bankruptcy?"

Yep.  Virtually everybody in the fed gov is on the same team now.  It's the "Greed, cheat, steal, get-all-you-can-for-yourself and to hell with working folks Party.  And its funded and directed by the wealthy/elite/financial cartel.

Is there any reason to still have hope, given their extreme power, and our lack of it? 

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idoctor wrote:

This is what Peter Schiff has been telling the media as many laugh at him. Hope he runs for the Senate.

One has to wonder if someone is trying to ruin this economy on purpose. Once failed it will be much easier for someones new agenda to be put in place.

Peter Schiff did an overview talk for Google at "Authors@Google: Peter Schiff"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU8jCa_dK...

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Fantastic post yet again, Cheif!

Suggestion: I really have a strong sense that a lot of folks don't realize how much comes with enrolled membership. These days the home page doesn't even have a direct "subscribe" link any more to sign up for paid membership, and I honestly wonder if newcomers to the site even realize there is a paid subscriber level with supported subscriber-only forum, enhanced video quality, podcasts, and all the zillions of other benefits of enrolled membership.

May I suggest that you collect a bullet list of ALL the benefits of enrolled membership and post it prominently on the sign-up page? I fear that a lot of folks out there think its just about Martenson reports, and there is so much more.

Just tryin to help...

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ErikTownsend wrote:

May I suggest that you collect a bullet list of ALL the benefits of enrolled membership and post it prominently on the sign-up page? I fear that a lot of folks out there think its just about Martenson reports, and there is so much more.

 

You have to log out to see it...

http://www.chrismartenson.com/product/chrismartensoncom-enrollment

If you log out and try to sign up for the first time, that info is given in the format you suggest.

I agree that there is ample reason to enroll. Since Chris started the "In Session" thread a few weeks ago, I often leave a browser window open to that thread while I am working for the real time updates - priceless!

 

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Nice post Chris.

I have a few comments:

- Your statement "All money is debt" got me to thinking. Would it be more accurate to say that the US dollars in circulation up until the time the gold standard was removed were real and the dollars created after that is debt?  I know the "real dollars" are a small percent but this is how I tend to view it.  Is that a correct view?

- I seriously doubt the Obama administration doesn't know what's going on.  I also don't think they want to see our economy implode. (Sorry gang, but I'm not into conspiracy theories).. I just think they know they can't do anything about it except put it off until the next administration.  Obama's biggest asset is his ability to speak and get people believing in hope and the future.  Since a lot of the stock market and economy is based on confidence, he might do a great job of keeping people's confidence up until he makes his impact in history and the economy is no longer his problem.

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 Hi Chris,

Thanks, as always, for your insights.

I have been reading your blog for a while and you make sense of complicated information.  I overstand that recent and current economic policies are impoverishing the masses.  Who benefits from this crisis?  Money is not disappearing;  Where is the wealth going?  Thank you kindly for your light.

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